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William Chapman's avatar

A lot of my sampling of opinions comes from people I'm encountering on social media, but the allegation that "Sorry, no statistically significant number of people is arguing for “children” (young adults, sure, but not “children”) to be given irreversible surgery or hormonal treatments." is just flat out wrong. I've encountered quite a few people arguing that trans-wannabe minors should be given hormone treatments and surgery if they request it, because they know ABSOLUTELY FOR CERTAIN that they're in the WRONG BODY and daily existence in that state is so painful and they're a bundle of nerves ready to commit suicide any minute unless their every irreversible whim is indulged immediately.

Among the "not statistically significant number of people" is the American Society of Pediatricians, which, according to The Economist Magazine, hardly a far-right publication, reports advocates the surgical removal of breasts of 15-year-olds.

Regarding Imane Khelif, there is no public information on what their genitals look like, nor a published chromosome test. There is a common condition where XY babies are born with horribly deformed genitals and internal testes, and will never be able to impregnate a woman through sex, and they are often raised as females. So being "identified as female at birth" in a 3rd-world country is hardly definitive. The Olympic Committee has taken a highly, highly controversial position of deferring to the gender on a person's passport. In the absence of evidence, anyone who asserts that this person is "definitely" of either gender is wrong. And saying that "no one is advocating that males be allowed to compete in women's sports" is hogwash, there are MANY people arguing that gender has nothing to do with biology and is simply a matter of self-identification, and that is the standard that sports should use. The ACLU website quotes a so-called "doctor" claiming that "males have no sports advantage over females" and a Facebook friend of mine asserts the same thing because Billie Jean King defeat Bobby Riggs (20 years her senior) in a tennis match in the 1970's, and that's the only admissible sports data.

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Scott Emerson's avatar

We don’t know if Imane Khelif is intersex. A corrupt Russian boxing org said she is… after she beat a Russian with an undefeated record. The org also contradicted itself on whether testosterone was part of the test

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